Comments on: I’m launching a new travel blog http://fionacullinan.com/2009/12/im-launching-a-new-travel-blog/ Web editor, copy fluffer, travel hack, content strategy, photography, life. Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:28:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ruth kozak http://fionacullinan.com/2009/12/im-launching-a-new-travel-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-316 ruth kozak Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:56:33 +0000 http://fionacullinan.com/?p=298#comment-316 Trouble is, these days with print markets diminishing, travel writers are being forced to prostitute themselves on-line for a pittance (or nothing!) for their stories that once earned lots of money in print. And also to put up with snarky editors who are riding in the coattails of their contributors and are getting all the freebies and glories from it. that's why I started up my own web 'zine TRAVEL THRU HISTORY. It's a bit of a niche subject market for travel but I'm getting really good stories contributed. And although I can't pay much (it's all out of my own pocket), I try at least to pay a small stipend to my writers. I made the decision to do this after being treated really rudely and insultingly by a certain on-line 'zine who paid nothing at all. Trouble is, these days with print markets diminishing, travel writers are being forced to prostitute themselves on-line for a pittance (or nothing!) for their stories that once earned lots of money in print. And also to put up with snarky editors who are riding in the coattails of their contributors and are getting all the freebies and glories from it. that’s why I started up my own web ‘zine TRAVEL THRU HISTORY. It’s a bit of a niche subject market for travel but I’m getting really good stories contributed. And although I can’t pay much (it’s all out of my own pocket), I try at least to pay a small stipend to my writers. I made the decision to do this after being treated really rudely and insultingly by a certain on-line ‘zine who paid nothing at all.

]]> By: Lynda Hamilton http://fionacullinan.com/2009/12/im-launching-a-new-travel-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-315 Lynda Hamilton Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:22:08 +0000 http://fionacullinan.com/?p=298#comment-315 Love your idea for a new business model, Fiona - and the rest. It's not easy for serious travel writers these days, also partly because everyone wants to - or thinks they can - do it. And they can, but usually what they offer is only the tip of the iceberg. I've come across so many publications stuck in a rut and not willing to take a chance on something - or someone - new. Instead, they shoehorn basic stuff into the same one size fits all model. It's very frustrating. I agree with you that while print budgets are diminishing, the travel industry has the contacts and the means to set about some changes. Fingers crossed! I'm now off to read your other posts and hope that you might fancy a read of my fledging Best of Scotland blog (bestofscotland.wordpress.com). All the best, Lynda Love your idea for a new business model, Fiona – and the rest. It’s not easy for serious travel writers these days, also partly because everyone wants to – or thinks they can – do it. And they can, but usually what they offer is only the tip of the iceberg. I’ve come across so many publications stuck in a rut and not willing to take a chance on something – or someone – new. Instead, they shoehorn basic stuff into the same one size fits all model. It’s very frustrating. I agree with you that while print budgets are diminishing, the travel industry has the contacts and the means to set about some changes. Fingers crossed! I’m now off to read your other posts and hope that you might fancy a read of my fledging Best of Scotland blog (bestofscotland.wordpress.com).

All the best, Lynda

]]> By: Jools Stone http://fionacullinan.com/2009/12/im-launching-a-new-travel-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-314 Jools Stone Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:34:33 +0000 http://fionacullinan.com/?p=298#comment-314 Hi Fiona Well having only just heard about it, I have to say I like the idea of what to wear where, sorry you've decided to wrap it up, but your new venture sounds good too. It's an interesting point about the gulf between privileged travel writers and ordinary customers ranting on UGC sites, especially with all the recent legal furore over TripAdvisor reviews. Good luck with tourist v traveller (thorny old debate that eh?) I look forward to checking it out. Jools Hi Fiona
Well having only just heard about it, I have to say I like the idea of what to wear where, sorry you’ve decided to wrap it up, but your new venture sounds good too. It’s an interesting point about the gulf between privileged travel writers and ordinary customers ranting on UGC sites, especially with all the recent legal furore over TripAdvisor reviews.
Good luck with tourist v traveller (thorny old debate that eh?) I look forward to checking it out.
Jools

]]> By: Behind the scenes of a travel feature – pt 1: transparency and the trouble with top tens « Tourist Vs Traveller http://fionacullinan.com/2009/12/im-launching-a-new-travel-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Behind the scenes of a travel feature – pt 1: transparency and the trouble with top tens « Tourist Vs Traveller Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:28:51 +0000 http://fionacullinan.com/?p=298#comment-59 [...] I decided to experiment – as is the will of the Tourist Vs Traveller blog – and crowd-source the answers using interactive tools and applications, but also funnel the [...] [...] I decided to experiment – as is the will of the Tourist Vs Traveller blog – and crowd-source the answers using interactive tools and applications, but also funnel the [...]

]]> By: Fiona Cullinan http://fionacullinan.com/2009/12/im-launching-a-new-travel-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-29 Fiona Cullinan Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:21:06 +0000 http://fionacullinan.com/?p=298#comment-29 I hope so. And actually I don't see why not because it makes financial sense. Clients hire publishing agencies to produce their editorial or social media content out of their marketing budgets all the time. But travel companies have the connections to hire specialist travel writers/bloggers/journalists/insertnewtitlehere directly, without paying agency fees. The main issue of being paid by a client is ethics - although newspapers also have to deal with this whenever a journalist writes about a paid-for trip. Transparency is one solution but I also think the nature of the content is another - I can see a move away from travel narrative and towards more transparent content: news, interviews, audio clips, video, etc, which show the story of the travel product. And there needs to be an editorial push back with the client - for example, if there is an issue with one of their products, then it needs to be reported and they can resolve it publicly in the comments. It would be great if a PR agency could send a blogger along as part of a fam/press trip and see what stories they generate as an experiment. Hosting the content on their client's site/blog would also - SEO experts correct me if wrong - offer better SEO value than the individual journalist's blog, because there are likely to be more incoming links. Just need a bold PR agency or tourist board to give it a go... and I suspect the delay is that they are looking for new outlets too and return on blog is not as obvious or measurable as placement in a newspaper. I hope so. And actually I don’t see why not because it makes financial sense. Clients hire publishing agencies to produce their editorial or social media content out of their marketing budgets all the time. But travel companies have the connections to hire specialist travel writers/bloggers/journalists/insertnewtitlehere directly, without paying agency fees.

The main issue of being paid by a client is ethics – although newspapers also have to deal with this whenever a journalist writes about a paid-for trip. Transparency is one solution but I also think the nature of the content is another – I can see a move away from travel narrative and towards more transparent content: news, interviews, audio clips, video, etc, which show the story of the travel product. And there needs to be an editorial push back with the client – for example, if there is an issue with one of their products, then it needs to be reported and they can resolve it publicly in the comments.

It would be great if a PR agency could send a blogger along as part of a fam/press trip and see what stories they generate as an experiment. Hosting the content on their client’s site/blog would also – SEO experts correct me if wrong – offer better SEO value than the individual journalist’s blog, because there are likely to be more incoming links. Just need a bold PR agency or tourist board to give it a go… and I suspect the delay is that they are looking for new outlets too and return on blog is not as obvious or measurable as placement in a newspaper.

]]> By: David Atkinson http://fionacullinan.com/2009/12/im-launching-a-new-travel-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-27 David Atkinson Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:25:53 +0000 http://fionacullinan.com/?p=298#comment-27 I agree that something has gotta give right now. The weekend papers are thinner than ever, the quality of writing worse than ever and the hit rate for freelancers placing stories at an all-time low. The old model looks dead in the water. Time to move on .. but how? Providing professional content for industry websites looks like a new model. After all, I keep hearing that people still want quality writing, not some SEO tag list. But will they put their money where their mouth is? Let's see... I agree that something has gotta give right now. The weekend papers are thinner than ever, the quality of writing worse than ever and the hit rate for freelancers placing stories at an all-time low. The old model looks dead in the water. Time to move on .. but how?
Providing professional content for industry websites looks like a new model. After all, I keep hearing that people still want quality writing, not some SEO tag list. But will they put their money where their mouth is? Let’s see…

]]> By: Fiona Cullinan http://fionacullinan.com/2009/12/im-launching-a-new-travel-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-26 Fiona Cullinan Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:51:58 +0000 http://fionacullinan.com/?p=298#comment-26 @Nigel. Thanks for you comment. I think that there is a lot of great local and hyperlocal travel blogging. Congrats on your site - there needs to be good local resources and hopefully inbound tourists can find them. For myself, I don't want to cover a particular beat - it's usually too much for one person so you need a lot of UGC or guest bloggers (as I found with What To Wear Where). But I am interested in the nature and form of travel journalism itself and how journalists/bloggers can push its boundaries. That's the plan anyway... @Nigel. Thanks for you comment. I think that there is a lot of great local and hyperlocal travel blogging. Congrats on your site – there needs to be good local resources and hopefully inbound tourists can find them.

For myself, I don’t want to cover a particular beat – it’s usually too much for one person so you need a lot of UGC or guest bloggers (as I found with What To Wear Where). But I am interested in the nature and form of travel journalism itself and how journalists/bloggers can push its boundaries. That’s the plan anyway…

]]> By: Nigel Barlow http://fionacullinan.com/2009/12/im-launching-a-new-travel-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-25 Nigel Barlow Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:32:06 +0000 http://fionacullinan.com/?p=298#comment-25 Will be watching with interest Fiona as trying to develop something similar www.northwestscenes.co.uk. I still believe that it comes down to quality content,yes we have celebs jetting around the UK and the world and yes numerous people put their travel experiences online but it takes a certain skill to convey atmosphere to the reader,to notice the unnoticable and twist the picture around. It is only early days for North West scenes at the moment.In the new year,hopefully will have time for more content and a different look at the world up in this part of the country. One thing that I have noticed is how little we look at what is in our backyard,there are many places,many stories up here that people are not aware of even though they live within touching distance of them.It is that I feel will draw traffic to the site. Nigel Barlow Will be watching with interest Fiona as trying to develop something similar http://www.northwestscenes.co.uk.

I still believe that it comes down to quality content,yes we have celebs jetting around the UK and the world and yes numerous people put their travel experiences online but it takes a certain skill to convey atmosphere to the reader,to notice the unnoticable and twist the picture around.

It is only early days for North West scenes at the moment.In the new year,hopefully will have time for more content and a different look at the world up in this part of the country.

One thing that I have noticed is how little we look at what is in our backyard,there are many places,many stories up here that people are not aware of even though they live within touching distance of them.It is that I feel will draw traffic to the site.

Nigel Barlow

]]> By: Hotel York House Lisboa http://fionacullinan.com/2009/12/im-launching-a-new-travel-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Hotel York House Lisboa Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:26:14 +0000 http://fionacullinan.com/?p=298#comment-24 Dear Fiona, Like the idea you are trying to achieve "What is harder to find is a middle-ground between Jo Bloggs naming and shaming their hotel and the angled/subjective narrative of the commissioned travel writer/presenter". Looking forward to read your future posts. JTMB Hotel York House Lisboa Dear Fiona,

Like the idea you are trying to achieve “What is harder to find is a middle-ground between Jo Bloggs naming and shaming their hotel and the angled/subjective narrative of the commissioned travel writer/presenter”.

Looking forward to read your future posts.

JTMB
Hotel York House Lisboa

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